IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 26 Jun 2007 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Doug White, Cisco Systems Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro * Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems * Ian Dodd Joe Abler, IBM * John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems * Kumar, Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU * Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Ray Comeau, Cadence Design Systems Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Cisco Systems Syed Sadeghi, ST Micro * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent * Walter Katz, SiSoft -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: No one declared a patent. ----- Opens: - None ------------- Review of ARs: - Arpad: Review the new macro library files. - TBD - Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD - TBD - EDA vendors clarify "electrically isolated" in BIRD - Deferred - Arpad and Michael get specific data on the non-linear behavior problem - Just got a slide set - Still need to determine what can be shared - Mike drop Outlook event for these meetings - Done - Todd update summit presentation based on feedback - Done ------------- New Discussion: Status of draft AMI BIRD: - Todd declared that the BIRD is good enough to prove concept. - Arpad brought up timetables: - There will be no meeting next week. - Arpad is concerned about the BIRD timetable - People should review the BIRD and give feedback before next meeting. - Todd felt that we may not need regular ibis-atm meetings: - We need to have proof of concept before going to IBIS open forum. - There may be a lot of discussion within that larger group, and it will go smoother if we can prove the concept. - We would go to the open forum probably in middle of September. - A problem is that this coincides with the Asian summit. - Arpad asked if the proof of concept will be a real model: - What will it look like? - Todd asked which vendor can provide a model without an NDA? - Hemant said we need to publish a correlatable reference model. - It should be an open source model, that works on multiple platforms. - It would be very simple on the inside, but will exercise the API. - Walter felt that we need both proposals. - Walter said that the BIRD draft document should be under revision control. - Arpad pointed out that there is a BIRD revision numbering system. - But we can't get a BIRD number until we go to open forum - The need here is to have revision control before it becomes a formal BIRD. - Bob asked if Rx_clock_PDF can be input-only: - Can Rx_Sensitivity be both Info and InOut? - Walter said that only Executable allows Multiple use. - Walter suggested that this level of detail needs to be resolved by email. - We took a roll call vote: - Is the AMI BIRD proposal ready to move forward into testing? - One vote per company: - Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp. Yes - Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Yes - Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Yes - John Angulo, Mentor Graphics Yes - Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Yes - Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) Yes - Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Yes - Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Yes - The vote passed AR: Ambrish send draft AMI BIRD 1.0 for Mike to post on web site AR: Hemant will publish an open source reference model by Jul 17 AMI BIRD draft document format: - The IBIS committee normally accepts BIRDs in plain TXT format. - The document will be in DOC format for now. - Todd suggested that materials from recent summit presentations could be integrated into the document. - Bob said we should not go too far with this until we know what the IBIS committee will accept. - Todd said it can be converted to TXT easily. - Walter said that pictures are extremely useful though. AR: Ambrish include page numbers in AMI BIRD footer and revision table When will our next meeting be? - Walter suggested that the group could still meet, but we should start talking about our next project. - Todd suggested we should evaluate Jul 9 whether to have a Jul 10 meeting. - Arpad may be travelling on the 10th Next meeting: 10 July 2007 12:00pm PT